Red & Anarchist Black Metal [and much more!]: Ives

Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Ives - "Abandon" (2010)

IVES "Abandon"

Year: 2010
Genre: Raw Black Metal/Punk
Country: USA

Track List:

The Taste Of Severity
Burning The Incense, Amanita Virosa
Lost In The Pleasures Of Moonlight
Abandon

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While I don't fully support the radical anarcho-primitivist ideology of this duo from Florida (and possibly some of the religious views of its members), I can't deny that they're ones of the best bands playing raw USBM/punk. I'll soon ask Boue Records if I can post here Ives' latest release (a split w/ Amort). BTW, the members of Ives are playing in several other political metal bands, which I'll check out soon too.

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AnonymousJanuary 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM
and this religios views is... ?
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ForestScumJanuary 31, 2012 at 10:07 PM
я не уверен, что правильно написал) в общем, если смотреть на идею "эдема" с позиции зерзановского примитивизма, который анархо, то выходит серьезное противоречие - бог выступает в роли своеобразного властелина не только в метафизическом, но и в обычном материальном плане. Так как он более антропоморфнен, нежели подобен какой-то природной силе, его совершенное творение - эдем получается своего рода резервацией для "неразумных" адама и евы (можно и лилит вместо нее, не суть). из этого можно провести аналогию с социальным неравенством, которое у зерзана является одной из основных сил отчуждения. а приобретение знаний, доступных только богу, - попыткой это неравенство сделать равенством. процесс изгнания приобретает полностью однозначное материальное значение - "вы посягнули на мое добро, за это я вас на мороз!", и дальнейший страх перед богом из-за возможности повторного наказания - так же становится ярким примером социального страха. отсюда и сама теория бога-творца выглядит нелепо - некто умудренный (читай - технологически развитый) создает искусственную жизнь, а как только процесс выходит из-под контроля, "эксперимент" прикрывается. ну а с иисусом, который равный, но все равно царь царей, и так все понятно.
и в целом примитивизм же подразумевает возвращение к реальной природе, которая в христианской культуре всегда воспринималась как порождение сатаны.
так что эту идею "эдема" стоит отнести к новомодным экотолерантным христианским сектам, гоняющим по ветхому завету
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jamesJune 9, 2012 at 9:58 PM
Which other bands do memebers of Ives play in?
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AnonymousDecember 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM
we both play in Talk Sick Earth...sam plays in other bands as well. thanks for ;istening.hope it helped you get some anger out..and yes sam is a Christian.he not really religious any more tho. atleast I never hear him say anything about it or bring it up..i am not religious at all.im agnostic because no one has proof of anything and no one really k nows shit about what happens next.

-aaron / Ives
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